In this episode, Kris Sauter joins me in talking about religion, specifically trauma from organized religion! Kris shares his journey from being a pastor in a toxic church environment to healing and resilience. Together, we explore spirituality, recovery, and Kris’ innovative project, “Shit My Pastor Said,” which creates a safe space for survivors of spiritual abuse to share their stories.

#13 Braving the Tsunami: Life’s Pivots with Marci Hawkinson
In this episode, I’m joined by Marci Hawkinson. We talk about Marci’s story of transforming her life, embracing values, and setting boundaries. In addition, we also get into personal growth journeys, life coaching, self-care, morning rituals, and managing responses to external chaos to maintain personal peace and authenticity in an ever-noisy world.